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My wife and i had the most incredible and special experience. Non mormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence. Mormon remnant through dna is his effort to present that evidence. Jun 22, 2016 all opinions, speakers and presenters represent and express their own individual opinions, and not necessarily the opinions of firm foundation, book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information or opinions represent the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Tvedtnes, john gee, and matthew roper, book of mormon names attested in ancient hebrew inscriptions, journal of book of mormon.

I suggest that if we are serious about assessing whether what the book of mormon teaches is consistent with dna evidence, we must assess it based on. Native americans and the book of mormon, are available. Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon. May 11, 2009 a recently published book claims that dna evidence proves the book of mormon, one of the books of scripture used by the mormon church, incorrect. On subsequent days, the story was picked up by other major media outlets such as bbc, washington post, npr, the new york times, and.

But in recent years we have again gone over the book of mormon evidence very carefully and are prepared to present what we feel are the elements of the strongest case that can be made for a cumorah in middle america. Something discouragingly familiar has been happening in the mormon church in relation to the question of dna and the book of mormon. Smith, new information about mulek, son of the king, in reexploring the book of mormon. Reviews of dna evidence for book of mormon geography. This video is a response to the original video, dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence found here. For these stories to be true joseph smiths imaginary civilizations must have been very large and covered a very large area of land. Dna evidence of the book of mormon in north america, linking native americans to the jewish population in the middle east. Archaeological and historical evidence dna and the book of.

The irony is in the fact that mormonism was founded on the claim that, with a living prophet, all such speculation was over. In 1997, the group became a formal part of brigham young university byu, which is owned and operated by the church of jesus christ of latterday saints lds church. This transcript does not include slides from the presentation. This new evidence, in contrast to the first, appears to provide support for the book of mormon as well as and an interesting geographic paradigm for the events therein.

There are so many things i saw wrong with the keystone of mormonism, that i really dont know where to start. I have produced a video on dna and the book of mormon called the book of mormon and new world dna, and interviewed and spoke with many lds geneticists. Jan 23, 2016 the book of mormon describes a ditch being dug around the protected area. Welcome to the dna evidence for book of mormon blog. A house divided book of mormon apologetics in the 21st. Foundation for ancient research and mormon studies wikipedia. See more ideas about book of mormon, lds scriptures and scripture study. Rather, he calls us to prove all things 1 thessalonians 5. A decade of new research salt lake city, ut and provo, ut. Dna analysis has concluded that native american indians do not originate from the middle east or from israelites but rather from asia.

This is tad r callisters 4th book and when you take all for into account, the infinite atonement, the inevitable apostasy, the blueprint of christs church and now a case for the book of mormon, reading all four is a perfect primer on the restored gospel of jesus christ and a new member. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence youtube. Review of john christopher thomas, a pentecostal reads the book of mormon. Simon was a member of the lds church for almost 30 years, serving a mission in melbourne 198183, marrying in the new zealand temple in 1983, and serving in numerous church positions including four terms as young men. The essay claims there is no dna evidence in favor of the book of mormon, not that the church would not support such dna evidence if it existed. Again, the churchs own spokesman confirmed in 2007 that the change was made due to new. For the first 150 years of mormonisms existence, everyone thought it was a story about a people who left the middle east and came to south or central america, and who fought wars clear up into new york state where. Has the number of book of mormon anachronisms decreased. To an outsider, it doesnt look like there is much support given the demise of farms, the. Much of the new evidence offered as authentication of the book of mormon as a genuinely ancient document hebraisms, poetry, antithetical parallelism, chiasmus, wordprints can be valid only if the book of mormon is a literal translation which faithfully preserves the literary forms and word patterns of the original authors.

He talks about dna evidence supporting the book of mormon. Evidence for nephis bountiful, journal of book of mormon studies, 71 1998. Jun 17, 2017 watch book of mormon centrals new video on one of the best examples of archaeological evidence we have for the book of mormon. Hendricks, director of mormon research group farms. The documentary is a must see for all those who view the book of mormon as an accurate history of the native american indians. The book of mormon is supposed to be a history of real people living in a real place. I spoke to them specifically about the x haplogroup that meldrum is using as evidence, and they all cautioned me against using it as evidence.

Another note on the textural evidence has something to do with the semitic way of writing and that is a phrase that should not be over looked which is this land in the book of mormon that phrase means where iwe stand i. The book of mormon only mentions one hill cumorah, as does joseph smith, said professor garloy p. The traditional mormon claim is that todays native americans are descendents of the people in the book of mormon, who were, in turn, descended from israelites who migrated to american in 600bc. Lost civilizations of north america documentary4, deborah bolnick on haplogroup x.

The first post summarised the science, the second deals with meldrums interpretation of the science and the third examines meldrums questionable salesmanship. Church published its claim in the book of mormon and the church changed the wording at just around the time when the dna evidence against the book of mormon was being established in both the lab and the public square. The book of mormon documentary accurately presents the consensus of the scientific community that northern asia not israel is the place of origin of the native american indians. The book of mormon teaches that these israelites are the principal ancestors of modernday native americans. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence that proves the book of mormon. Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon by rich deem introduction. Atop it a fence of timbers was planted and bound together with vines.

In summary, dna evidence and the book of mormon is long overdue. Meldrums first apologetic publication was a dvd entitled dna evidence for book of mormon geography the dvd that started it all. Nonmormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence. This discovery will probably confirm your bias no matter what you believe. Book of mormon evidences, part 3 presents further evidence supporting the book of mormon as an ancient document. We have an outstanding new example of how confirmation bias works in the arena of book of mormon geography and historicity. Lineage and the book of mormons universal audience. His contention is that the dna research thus far doesnt support the book of mormon, peterson said. Chapter 15 archaeology and the book of mormon reachout.

A cursory look at the themes presented in the book of mormon will make this clear. In early 2008 rodney meldrum published a dvd titled dna evidence for book of mormon geography. Three geneticists respond to the lds essay on dna and the book of mormon, and to apologist michael ash. He had come to the jungles of campeche, northeast of the isthmus, to find proof. Sep 08, 2016 on january 31, 2014, the lds church published an essay entitled book of mormon and dna studies in the gospel topics series on its official website. Last week, researchers announced a major discovery about mayan civilization based on lidar scanning of jungles in central america. A phylogenetic perspective in the journal of book of mormon studies, nov. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence page 7. Three geneticists respond to the lds essay on dna and the. And the main reason why the essay claims there is no dna evidence in favor of the book of mormon is because of its assumption that darwinian evolution explains how humans arrived on the earth, a.

This page is a continuation of book of mormon evidences, part one and part two. An excellent entry on book of mormon and dna studies has just appeared in the gospel topics section at. David stewart in his online article found on the churchs website titled dna and the book of mormon, quotes fellow lds scholar martin tanner, contributor to the neil a. Most lds church members were taught that joseph smith used seer stones referred to as the urim and thummim nephite interpreters to translate the book of mormon bom 1 to various scribes. We hear a growing chorus of voices claiming that dna studies prove conclusively that there is no evidence of a middle eastern strand within the native american gene pool. Jan 19, 2016 rod is a friend of mine and a member of my hp group, but he has oversimplified this dna matter, aside from falsely stating 1 that the maya are the center of interest of those who consider the book of mormon to be a mesoamerican codex, and 2 that they focus on the maya because they think that joseph smith did so as well. If playback doesnt begin shortly, try restarting your device. In this article, we will provide some background on this issue focusing on the scientific issues, followed by a point by point response to various statements made in the essay about the book of mormon. The scientific legacy of a quest to prove the book of mormon. Joseph smith was the founder and prophet of the church of jesus christ of latterday saintsunofficially called the mormon church. Misguided zeal and defense of the church fairmormon.

Two of the most prevalent claims for the book of mormon are, there is much archaeological proof to the book of mormon, and the american indians are descendants of israelites who came to america as described in the book of mormon. One of my favorite stories about the converting power of the book of mormon is printed in a talk by president james e. New scientific support for the truthfulness of the book of mormon. New discoveries in dna research currently allow scientists to test this historical claim. New dna evidence shows that the native americans are descended from east asia. Book of mormon and dna studies as recent as 2005 i was taught by a 35 year old at the timemormon missionary from poland that american indians are the descendants of lamanites who decended from lehis rebel kids lamanlemuel etc. Ces letter links to a poorly written wikipedia article as the basis of their sweeping claim. New discoveries about mayans and bias confirmation. Probably the biggest thing is the lack of historical evidence. A literary and theological introduction, cleveland, tn. The book of mormon claims that the native american peoples are descended from the house of israel, but the dna evidence, according to this book, points to an asiatic origin for the american continents native people. An earlier version of murphys paper is available online here.

Contrary to the claims of our critics, there are impressive findings that make it difficult to explain away the book of mormon as a nineteenthcentury fraud from joseph smith. Over 66,000 people viewed the video in the two weeks after it appeared. Rediscovering the book of mormon remnant through dna. Creating a list of standard works on book of mormon. Debunking fairmormon letter to a ces director book of. A few years ago a book critical of the book of mormon was published titled new approaches to the book of mormon. Ten things to know before you go new era, july 2005. The book of mormon is clear that it was a literal curse on their skin. View the original article at the book of mormon resources blog. A youtube clip entitled dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence is causing a stir among mormons as it has appeared on websites such as, ldsliving, prepare to serve youtube site and lds smile. Sister celia cruz ayala of the puerto rico san juan mission decided to. Videos you watch may be added to the tvs watch history and influence tv recommendations. These results were a great surprise to us, said study coauthor and ancient dna specialist eske willerslev, of the university of copenhagen, denmark. Dna questions with rod meldrum book of mormon evidence.

Receipt of the 3rd printing of exploring the book of mormon in. Nov 03, 2019 annotated book of mormon by david hocking and rod meldrum page 91. Five compelling archeological evidences for the book of mormon. This is some heavy duty gaslighting and throwing the bom under the bus. Misguided zeal and defense of the church the foundation for apologetic information and research fair is a volunteer organization of latterday saints and other interested supporters that provides wellresearched, welldocumented answers to questions and criticisms directed at the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Response to rodney meldrums incredible new dna evidence. Commonsense meets the book of mormon book of mormon. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence general.

Book of mormon, incredible new evidence book of mormon evidence june 22, 2016 lost civilizations of north america documentary4, deborah bolnick on haplogroup x. The use of harold blooms description of joseph smith as a religious genius in this video may mislead viewers into thinking bloom was referring directly to the book of mormon. Dna evidence proves book of mormon claims about ancient. Since the book of mormon record is a true literal historical record. The book of mormon makes several scientific claims that can be tested. In this episode, three geneticists respond to the lds essay book of mormon and dna studies, and to apologist michael ashs article entitled the dna challenge to the book of mormon that fizzled. On february 1, 2018, national geographic broke a story about some incredible new discoveries in mesoamerican archaeology using new technology. Simon southerton is a native australian, geneticist, former lds bishop, and author of the book losing a lost tribe. It is important to remember that most dna apologists defending the book of mormon, do so on the assumption that lehi and his family made a small genetic impact in the americas. Nonasian dna types found in living native americans is almost universally assumed to be from european admixture often a reasonable assumption, of course, and nonasian dna types found. A recently published book claims that dna evidence proves that the book of mormon, a book of scripture used in conjunction with the bible by the mormon church, is incorrect and points to an asiatic origin versus a middle eastern origin for the inhabitants of the american continents. Even if there was no, or little, evidence to support the book of mormon in 1830, we would expect now, after 183 years, that at least some significant discoveries would have been made which verify. I used to write it off by telling myself that archaeology and anthropology.

Anyway, its amazing to me that the book of mormon indicates that the. Book of mormon difficulties, contradictions and explanations. However, this attack ignores several key points, among which is the fact that the book of mormon states that lehi and his family are clearly not jews. The foundation for ancient research and mormon studies farms was an informal collaboration of academics devoted to latterday saint historical scholarship. Annotated book of mormon by david hocking and rod meldrum page 91. Book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information. Subtitled another testament of jesus christ, it recounts the story story of an israelite family who immigrated to and fully populated the american continents. The book of mormon for more than 170 years, the church of jesus christ of latterday saints has declared the book of mormon to be a scriptural and literal history. How a mormon lawyer transformed archaeology in mexicoand. See more ideas about book of mormon, mound builders and history. The urim and thummim was preserved in a stone box, along with the gold plates, for over 1,500 years for the purpose of enabling joseph to translate the writings on the. Many of the anachronisms listed are not based on absences of evidence they are based on available evidence. Mormon thoughts on newworld archaeology and the book of mormon are, at best, scholarly speculation, with papers, books and symposia littered with maybes, could be, might have been etc. While rhetoric renouncing racism from the lds church is a welcome step, religions need to.

Mormon church says it was an error in their come follow me manual that there was a curse of dark skin. Provo ap apologetic press scholars based at brigham young university today announced a new theory to defend the book of mormon s claims about ancient america. Another testament of jesus christ, is true, not false. That very arrangement is now well documented archaeologically an ancient american setting for the book of mormon, provo, utah. Correlation and verification through dna, prophetic, scriptural, historical, climatological, archaeological, social, and cultural evidence. They flatly reject the hemispheric geography, the view accepted by most mormons and all the prophets. To avoid this, cancel and sign in to youtube on your computer. John dehlin september 16, 2015 apologetics, book of mormon, top 10 truth claims, top 100, top 5 response to essays 377 comments. The dvd is based upon a popular presentation given in a number of fireside. Dna evidence does not support the testimony of the lds church mormon doctrine. Although the primary purpose of the book of mormon is more spiritual than. In the process, it provides a delightfully clear and thorough explanation of some key principles of population genetics, and of how these would. Americas heartland, which is now a bestseller of the season. The study authors believe the new study could also help resolve some longstanding puzzles on the peopling of the new world, which include genetic oddities and archaeological inconsistencies.

One of his followers recently claimed on the mormon evidence facebook page that the native american x lineage is only found in one other location on the planet. The book of mormon describes a single battle between nephites and lamanites where the nephite casualties alone numbered over 100,000 mormon chapter 6. Ferguson, a lawyer by training, did go on to open an important new window on. The book of mormon describes a ditch being dug around the protected area. Below is the modern map of the area of smiths youth. Cherokeephoenician dna connection book of mormon evidence.

Maxwell institute for religious scholarship formerly farms, who explains his position. The book of mormon is a religious volume that was published by joseph smith in 1830. After farms gets done refuting the book of mormon dna evidence with theories alleging the book of mormon is somehow not fiction after all, these byu scholars should leverage their considerable creative talents and powers of persuasion to prove the authenticity of other wellknown books. University of washington, has an article entitled simply implausible. Farms, 2002, and the publication of the journal of book of mormon studies, illustrate how completely book of mormon studies has expanded into all areas of scholarly inquiry and increasingly draws upon. Jamie is the author of a recent article entitled dna and mormonism. Dna and a mesoamerican setting for the book of mormon that appears in the winter 2003 issue of dialogue.

It explains why studies of new world genetics can neither prove nor disprove the historical claims represented in the book of mormon. One of several issues that i raise in my essay on dna and the book of mormon is the tendency for scientists to ignore dna evidence that might point to nonasian origins for native americans. The question whether dna studies can illuminate book of mormon origins has become a storm center in recent years and months. Rod meldrum and book of mormon dna byu scholarsarchive.

The above donut chart shows percentages of the book of abraham section of letter to a ces director that fairmormon is in agreement, disagreement, and neutral on if one assumes that fairmormons undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts, fairmormon agrees with 90. He also has an excellent article, dna and the book of mormon. Genetic attacks on the book of mormon focus on the fact that amerindian dna seems closest to asian dna, and not dna from the middle east or jewish dna. Burton howard of the seventy acquaints us with a strong testimony of the converting power of the book of mormon. Members of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints need to realize that god does not seek to confuse us and lead us away from him through the use of our intellect. Truth shall spring forth out of the earth, journal of book of mormon studies, vol. In fact, several mormon organizations have been founded in order to prove. For example, newly available evidence shows that the book of mormon includes later additions to the text. I would like to thank the organizers of the conference for being invited to talk about two really great subjects and that is the book of mormon and dna which, when you look at its structure and its design, is no less of a divine inspired molecule. In yet another skirmish in the continuing debate over dna and the book of mormon, the signature books website recently posted a ron priddis response to blake ostlers reply here and here to tom murphys article lamanite genesis, genealogy, and genetics, chaper 3 in american apocrypha 2002, signature. This dvd delivers on its promise, and provided empirical evidence to those who will listen. Welcome to the dna evidence for book of mormon blog filed under. Three great resources to debunk the dna vs book of mormon.